IDC: Smartphone market grew marginally in Q3, Samsung had the most shipments Comments
- Hello Life
- rK2
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2019Nope. Samsung does have a history of producing great devices but now other manufacturers like... moreI am not talking about sales figures or how their business is going. I am talking about their products. The design, the hardware, software.. everything feels better compared to Chinese counterparts
- toukale
- 43i
[deleted post]When you don't have an argument you either move the goalpost or start calling the person names. My argument was sound. We keep throwing the word innovative at anybody who can shop at the shopping bins. In reality, only two companies control the destiny of the entire mobile world. Have we not learn anything the Trump administration did to Huawei? It showed us how reliant all those box shippers are. That's what my argument is about, about getting more companies to take ownership of their destiny, but some of you can't see beyond your narrow minded hurt ego.
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
Duck of death, 09 Nov 2019You're not providing any actual data, as there isn't any. I am however providing clear and eas... moreYou aren’t really, you are providing us hearsay, one device drops in price while the rest stay the same, if Apple were struggling for sales the entire lineup would have dropped in pricing significantly, you and I both know that.
As it stands, they are pushing more of their services and are not resorting to $700 discounts. :)
- Anonymous
- g3t
Hello Life, 09 Nov 2019I love Samsung and Apple. Both of these brands are a notch above the competition Nope.
Samsung does have a history of producing great devices but now other manufacturers like Huawei, Asus and Xiaomi have created havoc for these two
- Duck of death
- m2A
AnonF-85937, 09 Nov 2019Come with actual data on premium segment and profit share then we can talk bud. :) BestBuy ... moreYou're not providing any actual data, as there isn't any. I am however providing clear and easily available evidence that Apple is struggling to find buyers. Had the iPhone 11 been a guaranteed hit, Apple wouldn't spend around a thousand bucks fencing 800 dollar phones to synthetically boost "sales" numbers.
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
Duck of death, 09 Nov 2019Is the iphone 11 cheaper or more expensive than the 2018 XR? Do Apple bundle more or less one ... moreCome with actual data on premium segment and profit share then we can talk bud. :)
BestBuy have a huge $700 discount on the Galaxy Note9 on Verizon and Sprint because they cannot shift the thing fast enough, you can have a look at it on Phone,Arena.
- Duck of death
- m2A
AnonF-85937, 09 Nov 2019Lol, further to my last response here are some more numbers from a full year, Apple taking 73%... moreIs the iphone 11 cheaper or more expensive than the 2018 XR? Do Apple bundle more or less one year free streaming services this year compared to last year? Were you able to get a 700 dollar trade in on ANY iPhone, NO MATTER CONDITION, last year?
It's fun to see Apple sales people completely ignoring all Apple discounts when they start whining about other brands.
You want to know why Apple does this? Because Samsung sales are going up and Apple sales are going down.
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
Duck of death, 09 Nov 2019You mean, like the LCD iPhone 11? Samsung has been a consistent multi billion dollar profit ma... moreLol, further to my last response here are some more numbers from a full year, Apple taking 73% of smartphone profits and 51% of premium smartphone market share, your precious Samsung all the way low at 22% that is not exactly owning the premium segment.....AT ALL, this is EXACTLY why Samsung devices drop in price so quickly :’D nobody really buys them, they go up for sale at $1000 and then can be found at bargain basement prices within a year :’D
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2019/04/apple-captured-entire-smartphone-industry-profit-2018.html
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2019I misread the data. Apple gets less than 50 percent market share of premium smartphones. Their... moreThank you for proving my point. :)
73% of smartphone profits and 51% of premium smartphone market share, incredibly impressive, 22% for Samsung and their endless devices. Thanks for this, it will come in very useful.
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
Duck of death, 09 Nov 2019You mean, like the LCD iPhone 11? Samsung has been a consistent multi billion dollar profit ma... moreLol, Samsung Flagships are not big sellers that why they immediately go into huge discounts a month or two after launch. Samsung’s cheap Galaxy A devices are where most of their profits are made and they are puny profits vs Apple.
Here you go, not a SINGLE Samsung Flagship doing big numbers, the only flagship phone in this list is the Apple iPhone XS Max, lol, Apple continues to be the only phone maker who does big numbers with $1000 phones:
https://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-xr-topped-all-other-phones-in-the-first-half-of-2019-report-says/
- Anonymous
- NL{
AnonF-85937, 09 Nov 2019Please post your source?
My point still sticks however, Apple stick take the lions share.I misread the data. Apple gets less than 50 percent market share of premium smartphones. Their profits are 60+
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2019/04/apple-captured-entire-smartphone-industry-profit-2018.html. Extremely sorry sire
- Duck of death
- m2A
AnonF-85937, 09 Nov 2019Very true, ultimately Apple and Google are the ones who take the most the profit out of all th... moreYou mean, like the LCD iPhone 11? Samsung has been a consistent multi billion dollar profit machine for decades. Yes, much thanks to Huawei, Xiaomi and Apple sales. This because Samsung tends to be the supplier of choice if a manufacturer needs something bleeding edge. That said, Samsung's flagship devices are the big sellers at the moment, as they're real flagships and not overpriced 4G junk like what Apple tries to fence for 1,500 bucks at your local dealer.
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2019Apple takes less than 50 percentage these days. 2017-18 called, it wants it's data back. Mind ... morePlease post your source?
My point still sticks however, Apple stick take the lions share.
- Anonymous
- NL{
AnonF-85937, 09 Nov 2019Very true, ultimately Apple and Google are the ones who take the most the profit out of all th... moreApple takes less than 50 percentage these days. 2017-18 called, it wants it's data back. Mind telling me why new iPhone is cheaper than previous one?
- Anonymous
- NL{
toukale, 08 Nov 2019If you read forums on techsites everyone is trying to push their agenda or their preferred oem... moreOled was such a great innovation by apple, wasn't it? So was that big screen on your iPhone... And all the OEM features that Google invented (read stole) from Huawei and Samsung were so amazing, weren't they? Google is ad company at core, their lifetime hardware sales are less than what Samsung sells in a weekend after launch of it's flagships. Apple is reliant on hardware. They realize that they're messing up, that's why you're being pushed to their services. Enjoy being their slave. Have a great day....
- AnonF-85937
- fjc
toukale, 08 Nov 2019If you read forums on techsites everyone is trying to push their agenda or their preferred oem... moreVery true, ultimately Apple and Google are the ones who take the most the profit out of all this. Despite Apple being 3rd in Market Share, they still take well over 60% of the profits in mobile, so they don’t really feel the need.
The box shipments like Samsung, Huawei, Xiaomi etc... make peanuts compared to what Apple make here, that’s why these guys have to push volumes and do major discounts.
- Duck of death
- m2A
toukale, 08 Nov 2019If you read forums on techsites everyone is trying to push their agenda or their preferred oem... moreBehold! Apple has revived one of their ancient FUD accounts. Toukale is back!
I wonder if Apple sets triggers on their tr011 farms based on headlines?
- toukale
- 95q
If you read forums on techsites everyone is trying to push their agenda or their preferred oem du jour. From someone looking on the outside, this tells me only two companies are actually innovating since they are the ones controlling the platforms: Apple and Google, everyone else is a box shipper. It is the reason why we are stuck in the current iPhone template and it drives me crazy.
I am not counting on all those box shippers (Sumsung, Huawei, Xiaomi, HTC, etc) to move us beyond the current template. If anything, they have proven none of them are capable of it. Google and Apple seems happy with the current arrangement and are in no rush to change the status quo, can't say I blame them. What a shame for the rest of us.
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